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tickler 257
What is the Silvan deck type about? Trigger effects on allies while entering play and bounce them back into your hand for more effects later. The base idea of this deck is to remove the Silvan specific attachments and rely on your allies and events, but get a little bit of more from the items from The Burglar's Turn.
What do you lose?
O Lórien! is of course the Silvan attachment. It helps you to cover one of the hardest challenges for a tri-color Silvan deck: resources. But sometimes you do not draw it. and to strip down the deck to 50 cards, you typically do not see Elf Guide or Sneak Attack. Howevery, playing both cards three times serve you well when it comes to resource acceleration.
The Elvenking is powerful, because you can trigger it once per round. But most decks do not play more than one copy it. So do we really need it? And without Galion on the board, the effect can be quite expensive with the limited resources available.
Nenya is a great card too. It allows you to use Galadriel's resources for . But with alternative acceleration mechanisms, you can handle this otherwise. Her ability to provide willpower to another character is good too, but it will typically cost you one and you do not draw a card unless you also include Unexpected Courage, which requires more card slots and resources.
Weapons like Glamdring, Ranger Spear, Mirkwood Long-knife or Orcrist are really good on Haldir of Lórien, but The Burglar's Turn gives you often a quicker access to the items if you do not have to pay for them.
What do you win?
As mentioned, all the nice stuff comes only for one additional quest point for each location. You cannot really chose what you pick, but with 9 out of 14 cards being a weapon and not caring about the guarded keyword, you will not be disappointed.
The deck works pretty well in solo and multiplayer. Especially the armor stuff and additional weapons after Haldir of Lórien is fully loaded can go to other players. But the biggest advantage is, that another player can play a Thranduil based Silvan deck to maximize the use of Celeborn, but still can use both The Elvenking and O Lórien!.
Another minor thing is that important attachments are typically played multiple times, and can easily become dead cards when drawn multiple times (unless you can discard them with Daeron's Runes). This deck only plays Galion and Henamarth Riversong twice and will not run into dead cards.
Finally, with the space for events, that typically do not make the cut, there are much more options. Sneak Attack + A Very Good Tale + any bouncing event is a really good combo during the quest phase. Sneak Attack in general is really thematic. With Silvan Trackers on the board, you can easily keep a 3 undefended, when you have Quicker Than Sight in your hand. Elf Guide and Galion is a fantastic first round combination.
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Feb 17, 2023 |
Feb 17, 2023i would switch the ratio. 22 allies seems not enough or my taste (speciall if some are allready out) to use The Tree People and A Very Good Tale safly. would add 3 Greenwood Archer (very nice with Sneak Attack in combat, or in plannin to ready Galadriel ) and 3 Woodland Courier would discard 2 Quicker Than Sight 1 Well Warned (Elrond's Counsel is enough) and 1-2 Elf Guide |
Feb 17, 2023
I tried it out and I cannot recomment any of it. The additional allies are not helpful. Greenwood Archer has no effect when played normally in the deck (because you do not play Nenya) and also has no effect for the Host of Galadhrim. Also once Haldir of Lórien deals moth of the damage you will not need their 2 . Woodland Courier has more use, but is most of the times the critical resource, because often you return the Galadhrim Weaver to your hand if Galion cannot do the job or multiple effects need to be triggered. I also tried Mirkwood Runner and Silvan Refugee. Unfortunately, both do not work well in the deck too. You cannot effort the additional resources for more allies. They get stuck in your hand and you do not get them into play. The events are all 0-cost and are all great. And finally, both Quicker Than Sight and Well Warned help against most difficult issue for the deck, which is running into multiple enemies in the same round. Ony +2 shadow card on an undefended attack and the game is over. Both cards help to avoid that and do not cost you resources. Not finding something on A Very Good Tale once every three games is not worth removing these events and replacing them with 2-cost allies. You would need more 1-cost Silvan allies. |
Feb 17, 2023Any consideration for Bifur to replace Haldir? That would allow Unlikely Friendship (helps with the resource issue) and lets you use Haldir ally as a possible Tree People target? Also on that note, where's Legolas ally? |
Feb 17, 2023
I built the first version with Bifur, but I didn't play it. So I have no real experience. But I didn't really like the built. You have a much better resource management with his ability to transform a or resource into a resource and the additional resources generated by Unlikely Friendship. But you have to solve other issues. Haldir of Lórien has a really powerful ability combined with all that threat reduction. With Bifur you need to think more about attack and defense to handle enemies on yourself. Bifur is a Dwarf and he gives you access to Dwarf-only items (e.g. Ring Mail), so I developed the deck into the idea to use him as my main defender. But since you cannot rely on any item in your side deck, Bifur is not really a good defender with 2. Also I struggled to collect attack power. Personally, I think the deck concept is playable with Bifur in multiplayer games, where another deck has a focus on fighting enemies and you can rely more on questing. You should increase the number of allies in the deck and reduce the combat related events. But when you are on your own, this version with Haldir of Lórien has a much better performance. |
Feb 17, 2023
Legolas is . How do you want to get him into play once you drew him? I don't want to count on The Tree People or A Very Good Tale to get him into play. This is probably a Game of Thrones thing, but I really hate dead cards in my hand. |
Feb 17, 2023Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I tend to agree with your thoughts on Bifur as a hero (probably worth it alongside a combat-oriented deck - Tactics Aragorn and / or Halbarad would make sense to control engagement). I tried a Bifur Celeborn TaLegolas Burglar deck like this and ultimately didn't love it. I was just curious what you thought. As for Tactics Ally Legolas, I'd still strongly recommend trying with a couple of him in the deck. His card draw is extremely powerful, and getting him in with TTP or AVGT is pretty likely TBH. Daeron's Runes will get rid of any copies that end up in your hand. He's worth it IMO. |
Feb 18, 2023@tickler`i am more the multiplayertype and there a ranged 2 character is almost allways worth it and perhaps the readying can be used somewhere across the table. or, include Captain's Wisdom then you would like to have a Greenwood Archer around and can pay him. he is also great with Sneak Attack in the combatphase. readying and attack or 3) |
This looks like so much fun! I'm looking forward to taking it out for a spin. Thanks for sharing!